Post by Jimmy Dean Freeman on Dec 17, 2009 20:19:52 GMT -5
A group of us will be looking to establish an (or is it just 'a') FKT for the Santa Monica Mountains Backbone Trail (BBT) tomorrow, Friday, December 18th. We'll be running in the Southeast to Northwest direction (Santa Monica to Pt Mugu or Will Rogers State Park to La Jolla Canyon / the Ray Miller Trail / Pt Mugu State Park).
The group consists of: Jamil Coury, 24 - Tempe, AZ Nick Coury, 22 - Tempe, AZ Dom Grossman, 22 - Playa del Rey, CA Eric Wickland, 27 - Agoura Hills, CA Jimmy Dean Freeman, 33 - Los Angeles, CA
We will be Self-Supported with a few people coming out at presently unplanned points to 'see us go by, take pictures, etc.' We have established 4 caches of water and food breaking up the 68-mile trail run into manageable segments so we don't have to carry a lot.
If anyone would like more info on this OR looks to do this run/trail in the future, feel free to contact me... firstname.lastname@example.org
As far as I know, no true FKT exists for the Backbone Trail as it has only recently been fully connected and a portion went through private property, not to mention the 4-parks it goes through generally discourage this type of activity. But I found info on Howard Cohen's site... www.gravityh.com/santamonicamountainsbackbone.htm
Howard did it in 16 hours, 37 minutes, which if you knew Howard, you'd never dispute. Eric Wickland and I (Jimmy Dean) did it this past April in 16 hours, 59 minutes. This time around we're looking to do something sub-16 hours, maybe even sub-15 (if ALL 5 of us have a good day and don't take too long at our caches).
Post by Howard Cohen on Dec 19, 2009 1:09:41 GMT -5
Jimmy, I will keep all in suspense and wait for you to post tonight's results. Regarding the 16:37 I ran in 2008, I did not do that alone. Checking my website you will see a link to some pictures. Sue Johnston joined me for the entire run on that day. I also was joined on various sections by Jonathan Stewart, Bill Kee, Jack Fierstadt and had first class aid and encouragement from Chris Scott. We had fun that day and I suspect you had a good time today as well. Happy Trails, H'ard
Post by Howard Cohen on Dec 19, 2009 9:00:24 GMT -5
One other important point is that Bruce Hoff provided some early motivation for me to find the BBT and run it. His route did not follow what is now the true Backbone as it rests today. His 13:54 is quite impressive but with route differences cannot be easily compared to the current BBT time. An account of his journey is linked from my BBT page noted in the original post. Bruce was a pioneer on the BBT and his efforts were and continue to be an inspiration others.
Post by Jamil Coury on Dec 30, 2009 22:15:28 GMT -5
I will let Jimmy or Eric post the full results and splits from our run, but 4 out of the 5 of us finished the entire backbone trail. Eric and Nick finished just under 15 hours, I was a few minutes behind them and Dominic was a few minutes behind me. Jimmy stopped at ~51 miles due to stomach issues. All in all it was a fun day and a beautiful trail! I'm not sure how this time would be classified, but somewhere in between self-supported and supported. We relied mostly on our water and food drops, and did carry all of our gear the entire run, but also had some outside support at mile 37 and 51.
Post by Jimmy Dean Freeman on Jan 12, 2010 2:08:49 GMT -5
GROUP FKT TIME: 15:07 Eric Wickland, Nick Coury, Jamil Coury & Dominic Grossman
As Jamil said, I pulled out at Mile 51. I had run the FULL Backbone previously and wasn't looking to see IF I could FINISH the thing, I was looking to help the group go FAST and had become a liability. Some days, just not your day. The time is very doable, as we were only going as fast as the slowest of the 5 guys, which was me about 75% of the time.
Congrats to the guys on an amazing day! The weather was perfect, trails had dried out from the previous week's rains, and it was a blast. It was a supported run since we had surprise support late in the run. Thanks to Howard Cohen, Jonathan Stewart and Faye Clapp. We also had an awesome crew START the run with us.
The last couple of weeks have been crazy and I was waiting on the splits so here we go...
5:22am START (at BBT trailhead) Will Rogers State Park to Dead Horse Parking lot 13.3-miles 7:42am arrival at Deadhorse 1,725 gain / 1,125 loss
Dead Horse Trail Parking lot to Stunt and Schueren Road 5-miles (18.3-mile total) 9:15am arrival at Stunt 1,770 gain / 150 loss
Stunt Road at Saddle Rocks to Las Virgenes Road / Piuma Road 7.3-miles (25.6-mile total) 10:30am arrival at Las Virgenes 310 gain / 2,240 loss
Las Virgenes Road / Tapia Park to Corral Canyon 6-miles (31.6-mile total) 12:05pm arrival at Corral Canyon 1,600 gain / 75 loss
Corral Canyon Parking Lot to Kanan Road at Newton Canyon Tunnel parking lot 6.5-miles (38.1-mile total) 1:20pm arrival at Kanan Road 400 gain / 560 loss
Kanan Road Newton Canyon / Zuma Canyon Trailhead To Mulholland Drive 5.5-miles (43.6-mile total) 2:55pm arrival at Mulholland Drive 600 gain / 160 loss
Mulholland Highway to Mishe Mokwa (via new trail established 2006) 8.1-miles (51.7-mile total) 4:33pm arrival at Mishe Mokwa 770 gain / 600 loss
Mishe Mokwa to Sycamore Canyon (via Sandstone Peak, Old Boney Trail) 8.2-miles (58.9-mile total) 6:43pm arrival in Sycamore Canyon 650 gain / 2,500 loss
Sycamore Canyon to La Jolla Canyon (via Wood Canyon Vista, Overlook and Ray Miller Trails) 8.4-miles (67.3-mile total) 8:29pm arrival at La Jolla Canyon 800 gain / 965 loss
Total Miles (est.): 68.3 (including mile to Backbone start, 67.3-miles on Backbone trail)
Post by Katie deSplinter on Sept 9, 2010 15:25:33 GMT -5
I'll be making a Backbone attempt this Saturday, September 11 starting around 4 am. It appears that no female FKT exists for this trail, so I'll be looking to establish that to open the door to more folks getting out there and attempting the run on this beautiful and challenging trail.
I plan to do this solo and self-supported - utilizing a few food/water drops I'll place Friday night. I've opened the invitation for anyone to come out and cheer me on, run a little bit or just have a laugh at how trashed I'll look coming down Ray Miller. I came out and ran the beginning and end of the boys' run last year and let me tell you, things were different.
I'll be running the same route - Will Rogers to La Jolla - and following the same exact route per Howard's site and Jimmy's guidance. Hoping for around 16 hours if I have a good day.
Post by sue johnston on Sept 11, 2010 9:58:59 GMT -5
Best wishes on your journey. You're out there right now!!
As far as I know the women's FKT is about 16:42 which I ran on 12/10/2006. See Howard Cohen's post above. He ran with me all day and, after screaming down Ray Miller, finished about 5 minutes ahead in 16:37. This was not an all-out effort but a training run.
My attempt today failed because of IT band issues after 30 miles. I decided to not continue in order to not get a serious injury that would put me out of my ongoing training, and upcoming races. It was a very hard decision, but I think the smartest one at this point.
I will attempt the Backbone again, on Sun, Feb 20, at 5:00 AM sharp, at Will Rogers.
Anyone who wants to join, please do!
Aid will be at Stunt/Lois Ewen Overlook (the most spectacular motorcycle lookout, and best viewpoint, from a Malibu setting), Tapia (entrance of Malibu State Park), Corral Cyn (one of the top parts of the Bulldog 50K), Kanan, and... Mishe Mokwa - entrance to Echo Cliffs (although the BBT goes over Sandstone Peak, the Santa Monica's highest peak).
Post by Eric Wickland on Dec 5, 2011 16:26:44 GMT -5
Chris "Prizzle" Price, Jay Smithburger and myself are embarking on a Backbone Trail mission this Saturday with hopes of improving the current FKT. La Jolla to Will Rogers. Supported. We will post our results early next week. We welcome any supporters and/or free post run foot massages.