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Post by Blake Thompson on Sept 12, 2012 15:25:20 GMT -5
After thorough and extensive research, it is my conclusion that no fastest known time has been established for the completion of the North/South Trail, located within the boundary of the Land Between The Lakes National Recreation Area, in the states of Tennessee and Kentucky. The North/South (N/S) Trail (58 miles) spans the entire length of Land Between The Lakes (LBL). The northern portion of the N/S Trail (31 miles) consists mainly of single track trails meandering from shoreline to heavily wooded ridges. The northern portion has seven springs and three backcountry shelters for overnight camping. The southern portion of the N/S Trail (27 miles) consists mainly of old, double-track roadbeds with some single-track corridors interspersed. The trail meanders over and through heavily wooded ridges, wildlife clearings, and mature bottomland hardwood stands. www.lbl.org/pdf/north_n-s_2011.pdfwww.lbl.org/pdf/south_n-s_2011.pdfAttachments:
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ghostrunner84
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Post by ghostrunner84 on Aug 5, 2013 2:56:29 GMT -5
Has anyone heard if LBL north/south trail has had an FKT attempt. I am looking to make a supported push in early November, and I would like to know if there is a time I need to shoot for.
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Post by Troy Shellhamer on Aug 19, 2013 13:59:12 GMT -5
Ghostrunner-
If you decide to go for it, email me at tunedvwgti25@gmail.com
Someone definitely needs to establish an FKT on this trail. Go for it~
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Post by ghostrunner84 on Aug 20, 2013 6:31:13 GMT -5
I have a tentative date of 9 november and I am looking to start at the south welcome station and run north. I have currently been training there at least once a weekend trying to put the road sections together so that I won't waste time with the transitions. I am still looking for a training partner, if anyone is interested in some early morning weekend runns on LBL trails give me shout at bouldermaster2000@yahoo.com
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Post by ajax on Aug 24, 2013 19:16:38 GMT -5
Troy,Ghostrunner,
Made some inquiries and found that the legendary Steve Durbin of LBL race director fame has ran it and probably has the FKT but said he didn't keep track.
I would say he probably knows the area as well as anyone so I would try and track him down.
Sounds like a blast. I need to head up that way and check it out sometime.
Cheers, alan
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Post by phubbard on Nov 13, 2013 22:27:52 GMT -5
Hello, I'm planning on running the North/South Trail from the North Welcome Station to the South Welcome Station on Saturday, November 16th. I plan to do this supported by my wife and kids who will meet me at several points along the way. I attempted to email Steve Durbin to find out his time and any trail beta, but I haven't received a response. There's about 10 hours of daylight left at this time of year, so I hope to finish by sunset. I'll post a garmin link when I return.
- Peter Hubbard
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Post by phubbard on Nov 21, 2013 6:28:50 GMT -5
On Saturday, November 16th, I ran the length of the North/South Trail in the Land Between The Lakes, starting at the North Welcome Station Trailhead and ending at the South Welcome Station Trailhead, 59.46 miles, finishing in 10:36:01. I ran it supported by my wife, 4 kids and my father-in-law who met me at 10 road crossings along the way. Despite being a very accessible trail (the main highway called The Trace runs a couple miles parallel to the trail and can be accessed by several gravel roads), I only saw 6 hikers at mile 25-26, so there was plenty of solitude while on the trail. I mainly ran with a water bottle full of gels and fueled up as I hit my support team. I wore my UltraSpire pack for the 12.5 mile Jenny Ridge section which is definitely the best section of the trail. The southern portion of the trail is less technical, but there's still plenty of single track and had almost the same amount of elevation gain/loss as the northern section, but without the views of the lake. To run it unsupported would require much more planning for water refills along the way as any water is all off-trail. This was my first FKT on an established trail and I hope others will attempt this run. The support logistics make it very doable, but I have to give my family credit for supporting me for 10.5 hours, because without them, I couldn't have done it! Thanks and love especially to my wife Elizabeth who ran the last 8 with me:) Thanks to Kyle Varel from the Forest Service who answered my questions ahead of time. It should be noted that I attempted to contact Steve Durbin to find out if he had a time on this trail but haven't received a response. Splits: Time Miles Pisgah Point 0:58:19 6.62 Sugar Bay 1:56:04 12.32 Golden Pond 2:20:29 12.93 Cedar Pond 1:44:13 9.00 Iron Mountain Shelter 1:28:52 7.42 South Welcome Station 2:08:04 11.17 Total 10:36:01 59.46 connect.garmin.com/activity/405697944 |
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Post by curtin on Apr 8, 2014 21:47:43 GMT -5
Sunday April 13th I'm going to attempt an unsupported run of the North/South Trail out at LBL. I'll start from the South Welcome Station and head north. I plan on starting in the early morning so I can finish around lunch time. I'll post a GPS tracker doohickey when I get back. Let me know if you've got any advice/questions! curtin103@gmail.com
-Kyle
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Post by phubbard on Apr 23, 2014 21:27:03 GMT -5
Best of luck, Kyle! The trail is marked really well with very few side trails, I imagine there will be some standing water on the trail near the bottoms around the lake. And make sure you have enough water - I was supported, so I never had to worry about fuel/water, but that will definitely add some detours searching for pumps unless you grab it directly from the lake. Good luck - looking forward to hearing how it goes!
-Peter
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Post by Curtin1O3 on Apr 24, 2014 11:22:16 GMT -5
Well I tried, but this time was not my day. 21 miles in I lost a shoe in the mud and it took a solid 20 minutes to find the thing. It was buried in mud about a foot deep and sucked off my foot abd then the mud collapsed over top of the hole.
Then all went well up to the golden pond visitor center. There were no signs for the n/s trail, and the ranger I asked has no idea either. After running in circles for about 5 miles I finally saw the trail again. Correct me if I missed something, but you have to run on the trace road fir a half mile or so to get across the highway? Anyway, coming from the south, that part is just not marked.
Well it didn't go well, so I'll just have to try again another day. Soon.
-Kyle
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Post by phubbard on Apr 24, 2014 22:07:35 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about that Kyle, the trail did go under the underpass on the west side of the road through Golden Pond, but there were several white diamonds along the way. I ran north to south, though, so from that perspective it was marked well. I hope you can try again soon since the northern section is definitely the most scenic.
Peter
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Post by Troy Shellhamer on May 6, 2014 8:14:51 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about the mud and mismarkings! Hopefully summer will yield better conditions...
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Post by Orianna on Oct 28, 2016 14:51:07 GMT -5
I was listening to Dogmen Encounters Episode 36 with Tim Combo. It appears that the park has a well kept secret. The North side has Dogmen siting and a bow hunter killed with goverment agents at the kill site. Also, many years ago. 4 campers were murdered. Don't go in without knowing what you you are going into.
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