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Post by Brett Maune on Jul 15, 2011 19:58:41 GMT -5
A couple years ago I ascended the tallest peak in each of the three prominent SoCal mountain ranges (Baldy, San Jacinto, and San Gorgonio) via 'hard' routes. The stats are roughly 22k ft gain and 50 miles in 21 hours 56 min. Details of the route and trip can be found here: www.summitpost.org/bear-flat-c2c-vivian-creek-socal-triple-crown-the-hard-way/515720I haven't heard of anyone else doing this (or a variation). Please speak up if you have or have heard of others doing it! |
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Post by FKT FEMALE on Sept 7, 2014 9:58:11 GMT -5
FKT female SOCAL TRIPLE CROWN 2013 Distance: 36.44 mi Time: 11:45:21 Avg Pace: 19:21 min/mi Elevation Gain: 13,385 ft (there are no males posting this particular event on this page. But I know at least 3 men were in front of me) This is my 3rd year in a row doing the 8000 Meter Challenge (a closed event and fund raiser for Big City Mountaineers) teams of retailers come together to challenge themselves on the three highest peaks in southern california. Mt.Baldy (via Sierra Ski hut trail out and back from gate at trailhead), San Gorgonio (vivian creek trail out and back) and San Jacinto (top of tram to house at summit out and back). This is suppose to be a total of 40 miles but my Garmin captured 36.4 miles. Here is my strava account www.strava.com/activities/101919958?ref=1MT1yaWRlX3NoYXJlOzI9ZW1haWw7ND0zMjY0MzQ1connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/371577285 |
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Post by Cyndi Wyatt FKT Female on Sept 7, 2014 10:01:02 GMT -5
FKT female SOCAL TRIPLE CROWN Cyndi Wyatt Burbank, CA 2013 Distance: 36.44 mi Time: 11:45:21 Avg Pace: 19:21 min/mi Elevation Gain: 13,385 ft (there are no males posting this particular event on this page. But I know at least 3 men were in front of me) This is my 3rd year in a row doing the 8000 Meter Challenge (a closed event and fund raiser for Big City Mountaineers) teams of retailers come together to challenge themselves on the three highest peaks in southern california. Mt.Baldy (via Sierra Ski hut trail out and back from gate at trailhead), San Gorgonio (vivian creek trail out and back) and San Jacinto (top of tram to house at summit out and back). This is suppose to be a total of 40 miles but my Garmin captured 36.4 miles. Here is my strava account www.strava.com/activities/101919958?ref=1MT1yaWRlX3NoYXJlOzI9ZW1haWw7ND0zMjY0MzQ1connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/371577285 |
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Cyndi Wyatt SoCal Triple Crown
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Post by Cyndi Wyatt SoCal Triple Crown on Sept 7, 2014 10:06:40 GMT -5
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Post by runbum on Dec 31, 2014 15:39:45 GMT -5
So what is the FKT... does it include the driving? I would love to give this a try.
Someone give me the rules for driving, which trails etc... Ive done all the trails.
Thanks
Run Bum
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Post by brettmaune on Feb 11, 2015 15:32:59 GMT -5
Not that I am the one to specify rules, but in general for FKTs the driving time is included. I suppose one could stipulate a supported and unsupported effort by whether or not a dedicated driver is used...Beyond that I think it just comes down to the route. There are many options here. The two most straightforward ones are the "hard" and "easy" variants involving all car-to-car hikes. The hard version would be C2C2C (I think the museum TH is the standard), Vivian Creek, and Bear Flats. The easiest variant I think would be to take the tram up and down for San Jacinto, Vivian Creek, and starting/ending at the ski lift for Baldy. By memory, I think the easy version eliminates roughly 45% of the climbing and distance of the hard version. Note what I did was neither of these. I did all the climbing for the hard variant but saved the knees on the descents by taking the tram down and doing the Baldy descent down to the ski lifts. I hope to try the full hard version again this year but the snow situation is less favorable than in prior years.
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Post by ultrademus on Feb 16, 2015 19:10:58 GMT -5
Hey Brett,
Hope you are doing well! I am working on putting together a group of fast So Cal runners to give the Triple Crown a shot, hopefully sometime mid/ late March is what we are aiming for! I was up on San Gorgonio on Saturday for the first time ever and it was still pretty snowy (no crampons or anything necessary) but definitely enough to slow down a solid FKT attempt. I'll post the date as soon as I know, would be great if you could make it down! I could try and draft off of you as you pull another 6:16 on Jacinto! (Congratulations on that by the way!)
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Post by brettmaune on Feb 18, 2015 16:35:30 GMT -5
Nick, unfortunately due to an unorthodox commute situation I could only do it on a Tues or Wed. It doesn't matter though since I won't be competitive. My main goal is to complete it (my track record is pretty poor for this). I'll push on the ascents but take it very easy on the descents to save the back. Keep me posted on the date. Mid-March is about when I am targeting it as well. Maybe I'll try just before "The Event" to establish place holder time if nothing else--a comically short place holder at that. Anyway, I can't wait to see what a solid time for the full thing will be. This thing really needs to get done by someone.
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Post by anishnabe on Feb 20, 2015 20:50:24 GMT -5
Nick and Brett, I'm headed up Gorgonio tomorrow. Probably too much snow for an actual FKT, but I figured I'd give it a try anyway. The triple crown seems pretty interesting. Baldy has a ton of snow on the north side right now. Was just up there a few days ago, but didn't go to the top. Good luck on your attempt!
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Post by brettmaune on Mar 9, 2015 8:01:03 GMT -5
After initially bemoaning all the recent snow SoCal got (for FKT purposes), I realized an attempt at the Crown in winter conditions could be much more adventurous and fun. I plan to start ~5:30 AM tomorrow (Tuesday). I think my spot is working and the link for that is below. I first thought if conditions were good (firm snow) that I could possibly sneak under 24 hours. Given how warm it is (above freezing even at night on the mountains), however, I expect a slush fest and so will likely be wearing snow shoes virtually the entire time when on snow and I think breaking 24 hours under those conditions is not practical. share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=044GSozTdVgqdaD2dIj3hWqHfPfa30UqS |
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Post by brettmaune on Mar 11, 2015 11:56:16 GMT -5
Finally got it done using the 'hard variant' (C2C2C, Vivian Creek, Bear Flats). 18:59:54. I'll post a TR of the experience when I can.
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Post by ultrademus on Mar 12, 2015 11:18:17 GMT -5
Wow! Way to go Brett! Phenomenal time considering the snow and everything!!
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Post by ultrademus on Mar 15, 2015 17:21:25 GMT -5
Okay myself and Michele Graglia are going for the Triple Crown tomoorrow! It's been a hot weekend here in So Cal, so hoping the snow conditions are down a bit than they were last weekend. We'll be repeating the same route that Brett did last week C2C2C (hopefully kicking less cactus), then Vivian Creek Trail then Bear Canyon Trail! Click on the following link start tomorrow between 4-5am to begin watching our progress! share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0dtHfskhLyJ9MIm68A0talpyoTqfZL6g2 |
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Post by brettmaune on Mar 17, 2015 0:14:25 GMT -5
i better write the TR while I still have the FKT for another hour or so! I did this trip as soon as I could after the last snow storm rolled through and dumped a bunch of snow on the mountains. I went into this thinking I would be snow shoeing for ~20 miles and that the trip would be an epic. It turns out I never used the snow shoes. Enough people had climbed all the peaks after the snow storm to make decent trails for the most part.
C2C2C is always an interesting trip. The forecast called for above freezing temperatures everywhere on the mountain, even at night. Needless to say I was surprised to encounter some shady frozen ground not far past Flat Rock. The summit plateau area was much colder. There were some areas that I'd guess were in the mid-twenties. My hands became numb and I began to worry about frostbite. Finally, though, the feeling started to return (with a throbbing pain) before I was forced to put on more clothes. Just a few hours later I would be descending into the Palm Springs inferno and would be thinking about dehydration and heat stroke. Such is the awesomeness of C2C2C! I was happy with my ascent time given I was carrying snow shoes and a large pack, which was necessary to provide enough real estate to secure the snow shoes. From the summit of Jacinto I was disappointed by how little snow there appeared on the other two summits. I decided to leave the snow shoes behind for the other two mountains but I was stuck with the large pack since it was the only one I brought. The descent was exciting as usual for me. My favorite part is the descent from Grubb's Notch. As you approach the notch, you are running along on flat terrain and then the ground seems to just suddenly fall away. You get a kind of free fall sensation as you bomb down the mountainside. When this is done on snow with microspikes it is a real joy! Shortly after taking off the microspikes I fell on an icy patch, which I thought was just melting snow. I landed hard but fortunately wasn't hurt. A few minutes later I was impaled by a branch. After a bit of a lull in the excitement, the cactus strikes then began. I ended up smacking two and had a glancing blow with a third. When I smacked the second cactus I immediately looked down to survey the damage and then promptly tripped on a rock and fell hard for a second time. The impact knocked my glasses off which was disconcerting. Again I was somehow not seriously injured. This was the third or fourth time I have descended Skyline and definitely was the most damaging. I don't know what happened. Perhaps the added pack weight decreased agility. Perhaps it was just bad luck.
In any case, I eventually made it to Palm Springs and over to Vivian Creek TH. I received some strange looks as I got out of the car to start running. I suppose it is an unusual sight to see someone start a hike already bloodied. Gorgonio was pretty uneventful until I got to the summit ridge. My gamble of leaving the snow shoes so far had paid off but now the trail consisted of deep boot prints in crusty snow, which was pretty slow going. As I neared the final turn to the summit I decided to take a more direct path than the dominant trail. Soon I realized the single pair of boot prints I was following started to go in the wrong direction. I was forced to make my own trail and began the arduous task of post holing back towards the proper trail. The descent back was slow. I wasn't able to start running until I got off the summit ridge due to the poor trail conditions.
On to Baldy. From the summit of Gorgonio I saw that Baldy had virtually no snow and I considered leaving my microspikes behind. Fortunately, prudence won and I brought them. The trail had no snow until the summit ridge. When I encountered the first snow I figured surely it was just a small patch and so resisted putting on the microspikes. Bit by bit I made slow progress on the icy summit plateau all the while thinking the snow was surely about to end. Eventually I reached the summit but it took me an astonishing 51 minutes to do the summit plateau in trail runners. The summit was frigid and windy--in contradiction to the 'warm' and calm forecast. I struggled to put on the microspikes and clothes in the dark while being buffeted by the wind. I slowly started back down the mountain. By this point I had no time objective and proceeded at a relatively leisurely pace. I ended up hiking or jogging the entire descent. When I got to Bear Flats I realized I could sneak under 19 hours if I picked up the pace a bit. In the end I reached the road in 18:59:54.
The splits were:
grubbs 2:47:07
san jacinto summit 4:09:31
palm springs 6:54:43
vivian creek TH 8:11:42
san gorgonio 11:09:48
vivian creek TH 12:56:21
bear flats TH 14:20:02
mount baldy 17:00:31
bear flats TH 18:59:54
This was unsupported.
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Post by ultrademus on Mar 17, 2015 13:59:31 GMT -5
Brett, I'll have you know you were the inspiration for this attempt in the first place! That being said, Michele Graglia and I, took off yesterday to go set the FKT for the Triple Crown and chase Brett's times. Here are the splits, I'll post a TR when I can feel my quad's again:
Start: 5:31am
Grubb's Notch: 2:46:45 (almost zero snow)
Top of Jacinto: 4:08:10 (Icy packed snow)
Palm Springs: 6:49:48 (didn't kick cactus)
Vivian Creek TH: 8:01:05
San Gorgonio Summit: 10:45:36 (Gah! Post-holing of doom!! Sooo slow going...)
Vivian Creek TH: 12:11:24 (Ran really hard down)
Bear Flats TH: 13:44:39
Mount Baldy Summit: 16:10:05 (Windy, cold, not much snow)
Bear Flats TH: 17:44:17 (Ran super hard down...And my quads are now in infinite pain)
Finish: 11:15:25pm
**Note this includes driving time in-between mountains**
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