Post by lferroneiii on Oct 16, 2015 9:30:34 GMT -5
The ultra 6er is a combination of six mountains in the Saranac Lake (NY) area and all are to be done in succession. The six peaks are McKenzie and Haystack, Scarface, Ampersand, St. Regis, and Baker with a combined distance of around 33 miles. I have been unable to find a true FKT for the six peaks so I will be attempting a speed record in the next few weeks. The driving time between peaks will be kept but not totaled into the actual climb times. Due to there being some driving you will have the option of doing it supported or unsupported. Here is a good write up of the 6ers for anyone wishing to attempt. The peaks can be done in any order you wish with times from car to peak to car as the recorded and time to beat. I'm going to guess with fair conditions that for a seasoned and strong runner it can be done in around 10 hours including driving time.
Good luck to those attempting the FKT and I will post my times once I complete it.
Paul Smiths College Class of 2016 Forest Operations Major XC Team Captain 14,15 Snowshoe Team Captain 13,14 50 Mile PR:TNF Bear Mountain 11:36:57 50K PR: Green Lakes Endurance Run 4:04:17 ADK 90 Miler Canoe: 1st place C-2 Mens Stock 14:58:58
hi, i recently came across the Saranac 6er Challenge which is what you are referring to, just by chance when I was traveling through. I had also been looking for some established times, but didn't find anything other than strava segments to the peaks. The town org running this keeps just a finisher list, not times.
I took it on without knowing anything about the area or trails, etc. It is VERY doable in the under 24 category. The 'official' form to have your name listed as a finisher in the Ultra/Under 24 group is available at the courthouse in town or online, i did not know that until after i finished, meaning i missed a few of their 'rules'(this 'contest' seemed a little disorganized in between the town people running it, the website is vague and I got sketchy info from the retailers handing out a very undetailed map. it's really like just a marketing scoop to get hiking tourists to come back to town to complete the 6, not really geared towards the Ultra contest crowd info or safety).
They require you to start and end in the town square, timing begins and end there, and all drive time does in fact count. Aside from the start/end rule that i did not know about, I did the 6 with the goal of under 24, I squeaked them in by finishing in 23.5 on 9/16/15 (I didn't do any night hiking, I slept about a full night in a free forest primitive campground closeby). This includes all my time from the car at the first one, until I summited the last peak, including all stopped time and time to get food at car/town, etc. I'm not sure how final rules would go.... I was completely self-supported, did the driving & hiking & resupplying myself, not hard as the trails are rather short out/backs. I had supplies in my car and did stop in town for extra food between peaks (so that would count as cached supplies, hence the self-supported, and not unsupported).
I do plan to eventually pass back thru Saranac maybe next summer and do it again, now that i know the area and logistics.
Just a note: i wasn't used to these types of peak hikes, the summit points are not very obvious unless you know them. I spent quite a bit kind of searching around for them....a little frustrating....
i would be curious on feedback here, as to how the times for this site would be formally timed. Would the consensus be as the town has stated (all car time, from the town square, etc) or as the initial poster had noted, drive time not included? I feel for this type of challenge, it's in fact reasonable to have the drive time as that is part of the strategy in getting to each one subsequently as efficiently as you can. otherwise, it's just each up/back hike time which really isn't any different than doing each one separately....
Post by Peter Bakwin on Oct 21, 2015 10:57:45 GMT -5
I'd say that the website linked above is clear that drive time should be included in final time. This is consistent with how these types of challenges are always done - time is kept from the start to the finish. E.g., Colorado 14ers, California 14ers, ADK 46, and so on. Otherwise, as you point out, it is just a bunch of individual hikes.
Berkerly Green 8:00 AM Travel/Break McKenzie / Haystack TH 8:20 AM Travel/Break Scarface TH 11:55 AM Travel/Break Ampersand TH 2:41 PM Travel/Break St. Regis TH 5:19 PM Travel/Break Baker TH 8:06 PM Finish at the bell 8:42 PM