Hi y'all new here. Just wondering what people's thoughts are in strava as a verification for runs. Sure it's been discussed here before so a quick response will suffice I don't have a laptop to make it easy to scroll back a ways. Thanks.
A couple cyclist friends of mine use it all the time, but it doesn't seem to have caught on much among runners, possibly because a GPS watch is bulky, high-maintenance, and expensive compared to a good old digital one. I kind of wish it *had* caught on, because it would provide a source of ideas for new routes and a sense of who the fast locals are.
I don't worry much about verification, because there isn't all that much incentive to cheat. Verification-wise, I think Strava is about the same as uploading a GPX file: while you certainly *can* cheat by hand-editing the file, doing so isn't worth the trouble. It's similar to photos, which I use for "verification": sure, I could combine photos taken on multiple outings into a single sequence and edit their EXIF data to be consistent, but I would have to be crazy to waste my time doing that when I could be out running and climbing instead.
Post by Peter Bakwin on Dec 7, 2015 12:37:48 GMT -5
Strava / movescount / garminconnect, etc., are all fine. Many FKTs are reported here utilizing these services. As seano points out they are just ways of displaying a gpx file. My only annoyance with Strava is that it often reports "moving time", whereas an FKT is of course total time. To get the total time I have to log in to Strava, download your gpx file and look at that. Please do not just post a link to your track and leave it at that! Post your total time, start and end times, and, heck, why not tell us how it went for you? Your details and story do help with the issue of "believability". Also, if it's a new route consider giving some info and background on the route to help people understand what you did without having to search all over to find out about the route. Ultimately, setting an FKT is about your experience as much as it is about your time.
Do the other watches (Garmin, etc) report total time or moving time or both? I am weighing options on g.p.s. devices so any imput is much appreciated. I am interested in a device for verification purposes but the more functions the better, so a watch with time,alarm, elevation,etc.would be ideal.
Post by Peter Bakwin on Feb 12, 2016 11:24:56 GMT -5
A gps unit / watch records position and time at frequent intervals. This information is stored in a text file with a "gpx" extension. The unit will also display a variety of information - the displays are usually user-configurable. You have to read the manual for the individual unit to find out what you can display and how to set up the display. I'd be shocked if any unit could not be set up to display the total time of the track. However, this is irrelevant for verification. What is needed for verification is the gpx file itself, which is a detailed record of what you did. This file can be exported in its native (text) form, which is frankly what I prefer because it is most flexible. But, what most people do is use online services such as Strava, movescount, Garmin Connect, etc. You hook your watch up to your computer (either by cable or WiFi) and Strava (etc.) know how to take your gpx file and put it into your account in their system. Then they display what they want to display, not what's necessarily the best for verification purposes. It's not a huge deal, but if a person wants to see the gpx file itself they will have to login to a Strava account to get the file. Further, if at some point in the future you decided to disable your Strava account, or if Strava went out of business, the file & info would be lost. The gpx file can be loaded into a wide range of things, such as GoogleEarth, caltopo, gpsvisualizer, etc., or a person could open it as a text file and examine the data line-by-line (e.g., by using Notepad in Windows). The gpx file can also be loaded into someone else's GPS unit so that they can follow your track on the ground.
As a text file, a gpx track is definitely falsifiable. But, loading it into Strava or whatever doesn't change this.